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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:08

Caiber:.... honestly this is about as good as it gets. She's the only reason I've let myself keep breathing.

Chard: the archmagos beleived that with his research, he could do something with the pylons to force back the forces of chaos for good. And so, the final battle began, with the surviving imperial forces gathering around the central pylon network, as the black legion descended from all sides, the warmaster at their head.

Charles: not yet... I did a bit of an... assessment. He's been brainwashed, but there's hope. He's locked up, I've talked to him. When we get back, we decide what to do with him. If we've got to kill him, we've got to kill him. But you know me, not a fan of killing if I can help it.
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:18

Byrne: *he shrugs a little, and bites gently on the right side of the cigar, pulling the gold plated lighter from the case with a slightly jerky movement, suggesting it is held in place magnetically. He lights the cigar, holding the trembling flame to the end for a few seconds, then replaces the lighter, closes the case and slides it back into his jacket, and takes the cigar in his right hand in one smooth movement. He exhales with a look of mild satisfaction.* "Excellent run these..." *He holds it up towards a glow globe, in between thumb and forefinger for a second or two, before looking back to caiber and lowering the cigar.* "I rather think the girl would prefer you had some higher ambition. Mourning isn't what i would call a good use of time."

Mute: "And that was that."

Hakken: "I'm a fan. 'll do it if you squeamish."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:27

Caiber:... you're probably right. She told me to keep living, to find a reason to keep going. That's the reason I'm still trying.

Chard: well.... get this, cause we've got enough reports that confirm this to beleive it's true. He managed to get the pylons into... overcharge mode almost. Daemons banished back to the warp, psykers lost their abilities, the legion of the damned who were there disappeared, mutant and posessed chaos soldiers had their daemonic parts simply vanish, daemon engines ground lifelessly to a halt, the living saint's power began to wane, and most miraculously, a beam was sent out into the center of the eye of terror... and the eye began to shrink.

Charles: But.... he wasn't lying about one thing. I took a DNA sample... Hera he has both of our genes.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:34

Hera: "He's not our son, don't even go there."

Byrne: "How does serving an inquisitor fit into that?" *he looks absent mindedly at his cigar.*

mute: *surprised expression, then fades to an inquisitive one*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:41

Charles: I'm not sure what he is.

Caiber: Means I can try to undo the wrongs I did.

Chard: yeah... however, the weakening of the living saint caused her to be badly wounded by the warmaster. Castellan Creed personally lead his men forward to aid her, but in doing so he himself was almost killed by the warmaster... until Celestine shoved her sword in abaddon's back, causing him to teleport back to his ship to escape.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:48

Hera: "Not. Our. Son."

Byrne: "Fair enough... This needs a glass of red with it..."

Mute: *he smiles a little*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 18:57

Charles: I know. *reassuring hand on shoulder*

Chard: and so... the despoiler did what I would dub the 'taking his ball and going home move'

Caiber: wouldn't know.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:20

Byrne: *he picks up the glass from the rail, a fine crystal piece.* "Not much of a call for refined palate in xeno commanders i suppose."

Mute: *amused hmn.*

Hera: *Putting her foot down face* "Right, work to do."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:23

Caiber: we didn't have access to it.

Chard: he had his fleet attack the phalanx as a distraction, and managed to launch the largest chunk of the destroyed blackstone fortress into cadia's surface. The impact cracked open the planet's surface, and shattered the pylon network. With the pylons gone, the eye claimed her. That is how cadia fell.

Charles: aye. Where were we?

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:28

Byrne: "Indulgences that rank gets you, i suppose." *he swirls the glass, looking at the last dreg of brandy*

Mute: "Ah. I see."

Hera: "Between floor sixty eight and sixty seven."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:28

Jurgen: *Lowers the binoculars* "What would be our next move? It seems that you are very confident of your artillery."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:31

Caiber: more it didn't exist on our planet. Mechanicum controlled, industrial shithole.

Chard: aye. Battle wasn't quite over. As daemons and other monsters overran the planet, of course evacuation began. Creed and the 8th refused to leave, deciding to hold the line at the evac site so the others could get out. About three million cadians got out.

Chard: Well, lead the way.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:36

OOC: Where be this Jurgen fellow? And who's he talking to? I is confuzled.

Byrne: "Fair enough, Does... can you drink alcohol? I don't know how it interacts with xenos." *As usual, he doesn't seem to phrase the question to Caiber directly, rather to the room, as if another twenty people were there.*

Mute: "Only Three million? Throne."

Hera: "The underhive starts at around floor forty nine." *They start jogging downstairs again*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:38

OOC oh wait is that with the kreigers n crons?
IC Caiber: Aye, I can. I'm more than half human.

Chard: aye. We're damn lucky it was that many.

Charles: *jogging after em*

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:44

Byrne: "Come on. I need something to go with this, and you seem low on company."

Mute: "Probably yes."

*Reaching floor 49 after about a half hour.*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:46

Caiber: yes I can drink

Chard: so... yeah. That's what we know.

Charles: alright, now what?

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:48

OOC: So in 40k the closest thing to ODSTs are the Harakoni warhawks and that other Drop regiment. They perform what are essentially HALO jumps (High Altitude Low Opening) using their grav chutes.
Since grav chutes work by literally creating a tunnel of decreased gravity for the wearer, couldn't you theoretically strap 4 to a single man drop pod. And then use those with a set of retrothrusters to drop soldiers from orbit.
The pod protects them from re-entry effects and the heat, while the grav chutes kick in later to aid in deceleration. With the retrothrusters kicking in so the occupant doesn't go splat.
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 19:56

OOC: The problem is not the height, its the splat at the end. A drop pod works so well because its too fast to get hit by guided AA fire. Course you can just throw shit tons of flack at them and you'll get some but thats besides the point. At the speeds an astartes drop pod goes, the g forces experienced when the retros fire and slow it down are massive. So a human drop pod would have to slow down for a much longer period, making it vulnerable to flack again as it slows down.

Byrne: *Starts walking off down the companionway.* "I'll see what i can teach you."

Mute: "I... see."

Hera: "Now we spread out, find whats going on."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:00

Caiber: Teach me?

Chard: you alright?

Charles: *nods* By the way *he gives her a vox frequency* For our stealth operative incase you need to contact him.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:07

OOC: That is the main issue, but I guess it depends on how it's used. Considering how prominent shield tech is in 40k you could just slap shields everywhere.
Plus it depends on what you make it from, flak works by basically throwing shrapnel at the target.
If the pod is sufficiently armoured you become immune to traditional flak. Missile based defences have to contend with speed and the sheer number of pods being dropped.

The deceleration is where the trouble lies as you said.
Halo uses a drogue chute followed by landing rockets at about 30m.
Also if Halo can do it, why can't 40k :p
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:16

OOC: Okay so having spent a moment thinking.
During drop pod assaults, imperial forces utilise multiple pods.
Manned pods are the most numerous, these are single occupant vehicles.
Unmanned pods, these are used as chaff and to obliterate anti air emplacements.
Both are dropped together, but the unmanned pods do not decelerate. Instead they are launched towards flak and missile emplacements with the sole goal of obliterating them with the impact and thus reducing the effectiveness of enemy countermeasures.
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:20

OOC: Because halo has inertial dampeners. 40k doesn't. Shite level maths being, a human's terminal velocity is 122mph, give 0.5 seconds for deceleration, which is an eternity in drop pod time, so this is generous. You're pulling 11 g's, after 9g you fall unconscious or at the least go blind. And thats for a human. Not an aerodynamic pod. Could use it for stealth ops though. And ramming pods into aa emplacements sounds like a very expensive tactic.

Byrne: "How to be some kind of gentleman. Unless you want to follow Mr Laurence's example, and drink paint thinner by the pint?"

Hera: "has he reported back yet?"
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:23

Caiber: Alright, i'm game. *stands up*

Charles: not yet.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:28

Mute: "Mmn." *he looks a bit sad.*

Byrne: "That was a binary choice, yes isn't an answer." *One of his eyebrows climbs a half inch*

Hera: "hmn. Well, Mac, hakken, you two stick together, take the main drag, a pair of soldiers will attract less attention than a commissar or mr muggable over here. I'll take that back alley over there and charles won't do what i tell him anyway, so i'll attempt to remain in command by telling him to do what he likes."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:30

Chard offers him a cigar

Caiber: I mean, alright show me.

Charles: 'mr muggable' *chuckles*

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:32

OOC: I will shout space magic bullshit until this works!

"Fighter jets can pull up to 9 g vertically, and the more a pilot can take without blacking out, the better their chances in a dogfight. Some pilots wear “g-suits” which help push the blood away from their legs and towards the brain."

If we assume that the soldiers are wearing specialised gear, then we can say that they are able to withstand the G forces. All we'd then have to work out is how they survive to actually land. Given the Imperiums habit of spamming dudes we could say that the pods suffer tremendous casualties when dropping. Or as you said they're used for special operations and thus they're rarely intercepted.

The idea behind the unmanned pod was basically a big angry kinetic rod!
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:40

OOC: 9g. 11g. and remember 11g was a very conservative estimate. Cause. Astartes drop pods apparently go 12,000km/h. With the same 0.5 stop speed. that means they hit 680g. SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY. Even if you quarter the speed, thats still completely unsurvivable for a human. To put it bluntly, dropping cunts from orbit is impossible without space wizards.

Mute: *Waves it away. and signs* "I don't."

Byrne: "I've got some quarters ten minutes away. Since my personal quarters were behind the bridge, most of my effects survived the battle. Not my shuttle... but i suppose it can be replaced."

Hakken: "If i passed you down in the sump i'd mug ya. Ya scream, shouldn't be this low. I'm an upscum spire twat, please kill me for my boots."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:43

OOC: Well it's a good thing we have space wizards! :P
But yeah I get your point, oh well. Thanks for the good discussion!
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:44

Chard: Fair enough... I'm sorry.

Caiber: aye, spose it can.

Charles grins as he seems to fade out of existance in less than a second, leaving him completely invisible
"You were saying?"

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:44

OOC: Damn you laws of physics. Ruinin ma orbital insertions. However. In the vein of physics in games. Have you ever heard of the peasant railgun?
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:46

Mute: "No point dwelling."

Byrne: "The pilot, less so. Jacques was a good man."

Hera: "Thats cheating, now fuck off."
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:47

OOC: No I have not, do tell
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:49

Chard: doesn't mean you're okay. I know what it's like to lose your home.

Caiber: sorry to hear that.

Charles: Love you too. *is gone*

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:57

OOC: It works in D&D by abusing a few simple rules. You need about a hundred peasants. So how initiative works is every round is 6 seconds long right?

Mute: "It's been a good few years since i left cadia."

Byrne: "We all know the risks. Void combat is not exactly safe." *A vivid image of this mild mannered gentleman screaming orders at subordinates while he sits upon a command throne, processing vast quantities of data, directly interfacing with the ship, even as macro cannon fire guts the lower decks flashes in caiber's mind.*

Hera: "Right lads, on your way." *she walks casually down the alley. Opting for hiding in plain sight, as do mac and hakken, shouldering their lasguns, and wandering down the main street as if they owned the flagstones.*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 20:59

OOC: About that yeah
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:08

Chard: I know. Was since I left my home. Still hits you.

Caiber: you alright?

*lets follow hera for now*
hera finds herself in a surprisingly quiet neighborhood, almost no one outside their homes, despite it being the middle of the day

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:11

Mute: "Mac found out a week or so ago. We worked through it."

Byrne: "Yes, yes. You can't be a navy captain without death becoming a personal acquaintance."

*hera continues to walk, non nonchalantly as could be, but keeping her eyes and mind open.*
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:14

Chard: fair enough. Could probably get you in contact with some of the survivors if you want.

Caiber: that's a feeling I know.

she sees a little girl, clearly trying to hide from her, round a corner

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:18

Hera: *she looks over, and in a standard 'being nice to kids' voice says.* "Hello there." *meanwhile psychically looking for the mildly obvious trap.*

Mute: *shrugs* "We're penal legionaries, and inquisitorial soldiers. we would not be popular."

Byrne: "All commanders, to a greater or lesser extent will i suppose."

OOC: So, if you line up 100 peasants, and hand the first one a rock. and tell him to hand it to the next one. The way initiative works is, the rock will get from the first guy to the last in 6 seconds. meaning the rock has been accelerated to near the speed of sound and will kill anything the line of peasants is pointing at.
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:21

she can't find one. the girl tries to run away, looking terrified

Chard: gotta stick together these days.

Caiber: aye, you're not wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:22

OOC: I love it!
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PostSubject: Re: A slightly smaller Mess   2017-09-30, 21:35

Hera shrugs, the girl is probably scared shitless of the uniform. She continues walking.

Mute: "Maybe."

Byrne: *he holds the cigar to his lips for a moment, then drops it away. About five seconds later he exhales a small cloud of smoke* "looses the impact after a while."



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