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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 02:43

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 02:53

Chapter Master Arken wrote:
Edit: I nuked the HUE thread, just so you guys know. I'll reiterate I agree on the matter of HUE. That shouldn't have happened period, and I'm glad I was finally able to delete it as I wasn't to happy upon seeing that when I logged in one day.
OOC I appreciate you doing that Arken, it was something that would've been avoided if the PM system could just work differently to allow 3 users to work in tangant easily (it was hard at the time, the thread was a last resort for something)

and I admit, it should've been purged shortly after the topic was finished, but like an Ork infestation the guard could never successfully put down, and your Space Marines came and purged the Greenskins, once and for all
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 06:16

........ffs.... why must i deal with a shitstorm every time i wake up...
/sigh/......im gonna crunch through all this before answering nanything...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 06:43

....now...... what is this hue thread i keep reading about? believe it or not, i dont spend day and night scouring the forum for breaks of the rules... yes, i only do something about violations if it is reported because otherwise i will likely not know of it....
Yes, i deleted Vargas' account. admittedly, it may or may not have been a hasty decision. From what i have been told, by multiple people, mind you, vargas wrote explicit pornographic content and kept reposting it even after being told not to. I acted on that assumption. Also, you said he could not have known that hue is illegal. Nonsense and bullshit. The top section is dedicated and clearly labeled for newbies, and includes the rule regarding hue. he easily could have known, therefore the rule applies wether he actually knew it or not.
Derails: you may or may not have noticed that i havent made a single comment in your threads for several days, and i intend to maintain this.... well... except that one i directed specifically at bush because thats whre i found him...
Salmon: i thought he was one of your firends with a new account or something...
as for ...leniency on the part of enforcement, yes, i will be lenient when someone we have all known for years breaks a rule, and will have no sympathy when someone who has been here for less than a week starts breaking them.

Arken, dont go around waving your moderator rank in everyones face... you really want to win arguments by rank? -.-
Ortus, you wanted to be a mod/admin to enforce adherence to lore... lets face it, thats not a good enough reason to get those ranks... you got a title stating that you have the say in the matter over the scrubs...
and i agree, you guys specifically said that you will use vargas as a subject for abuse for your own amusement...

and i agree on the azrok front with arken. the only real issue with his writing is that he doesnt use periods between sentences. vargas was speaking dog-english at best.
if reaven really did only hint, refer, or otherwise indirectly imply that intercours ehappened, he broke no rules. if gorath acted on that, he overstepped his station. do report that, geniuses...

/cries in spanish/....and this is only the first page....
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 06:53

Ortus: "People shouldn't be treated differently because we know them less and form judgements of them immediately."
Yes... yes, they should be. By all means. Ever heard of first impression? you dont go about being an idiot and expect to be welcomed...

for fucks sake.... does someone have an exact copy of what Vargas wrote? the first guy who came across it nuked it, and now all i have is one side saying it was pornography at its best and the other that all it was was "Arag is throb"..... how the fuck did we even manage to split ffs?! there are less than a dozen of us!
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 07:11

Shadow, dont be an idiot... again....
who the hell cares that you try baiting people to ban you by quoting vargas?
start writing hue and i will nuke you. keep it up long enough and i will ban you. you get lenience, not immunity...

and here goes arken with the maturity talk again.... believe it or not, i knew this would happen the moment i gave him power... though i admittedly did not expect it so soon...
while on the subject, you think im a bad admin? why yes, you are most certainly correct. now, if only we had an active, mature, objective, reasonable person to replace me... too bad the closest thing we have is reaven and he doesnt want the posting... i made gorath an admin when i made the site because he was the most active and could act as backup if i wasnt here... for technical things... like creating new forums... i assumed we are intelligent enough to govern ourselves....
but as we know, gorath is often too lenient, arbitrary, and tends to break rules himself...
then theres arken who i gave power to knowing that he would mess up. i also knew that he would blame the shit out of himself afterwards... and maybe, just maybe, he will get some of those "virtues" i mentioned earlier... we'll see...
then who else? azrok with his borderline(and sometimes more) illegality? one of the shadow band with their complete subjectiveness and impulsiveness?
Fae?
I would be the gladest of us all if i could find someone else to replace me and save me from dealing with all this shit, but sadly, we lack such a person at the current point in space and time......

I shall assume that the rets of this thing is just the same insults and accusations being thrown back and forth... it has been for the past page or so anyway...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:00

You cracked me up at cries in Spanish...
But yeah, they shouldn't be as they did appear rather... Intensely stupid, no one really gave him a chance.

And as for the sexual material, the only part that could be considered sexual consisted of :
Arag is throb
Melon moves in
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:08

To be honest ortus, naz has a point, he was here for less than a week and obviously never read the rules, he chose to ignore a pretty obvious "for newbies" section
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:12

Yeah, true, but does not change the fact that I'm pretty sure that doesn't break the rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:19

He never wrote anything explicit, at all; the people that said he did were lying to get him eradicated.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:21

I don't know guys, all we can do is wait for gorath or naz with the logs
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:22

Yeh.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:25

We have what he wrote in our chat
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:53

OOC: i dont have any logs. i was working when that happened and by the time i got on, it has already been nuked several times
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 08:56

All we have to go on is him acting like a moron on kill team
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 09:30

and why the hell do i still not get any notifications from you.... fething ninjaterminatorplushie...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 13:34

What is happening here?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 13:40

OOC have fun reading the last 4 pages
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 13:53

Not gonna do that, look, good guy Lord Nazamroth summed it up there.

And my comment is

We should not even be arguing this

I mean

Wtf
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 13:54

OOC aye
Some of the people arguing here just want something to blame for the forum's decline
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:00

Forum's decline?

What the fuck is wrong with people

Forum is not declining

Even if the Forum is dead, we are alive, ready and hungry for role-playing...

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:02

Well yeah, it's declining with how some of them think of it (should see the killteam topic, some of it anyway) honestly I see it as living
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:10

apparently, im the one killing the forum with my derailings...
this is especially amusing since
A) i have made only one comment in one of their threads in the past 5 days, specifically targeted at bush, and
B) shadow himself posted completely irrelevant stuff
and even so, they havent advanced a single inch in the kill-team topic ever since...

also, im greatly amused that you have a screenshot of that comment...
oh, and fae, you gave me my 6666th notification.... congrats on being the spawn of satan...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:17

*cheers*
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:18

Du bist wilkommen mein f├╝hrer
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:19

oh deary me
the denial i expected
ah well
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:20

Hey Gorath, how ya doin

Long time no see

I have missed the story time with Gorath on steam
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:20

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:20

You mentioned herr furher

I had to
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:21

Who is this no one is safe

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:22

Ortus

Also when I offtopic I get called out for it

Naz off topics alot and no one calls him out until recently
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:22

OOC well I have a toxic footprint
I guess the 6666th notification is only fitting for me
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:25

What is wrong with ortus

Or

Is anything wrong with ortus
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:25

You made me not want to do it, because you would derail it, like you derail everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:27

So naz, as you are the most useful admin, do you intend to actually do anything or not?

Im asuming the answer to my question is the Or not
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:27

probably a lot of things
but thats unrelated
the point on the first page is what this was made for, and they still haven't actually been addressed.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:31

Hey himfea
and im good other than being unable to use computerz for a few days
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:33

Right

So, gorath if your going to exchange pleasantries can you do it somewhere else so this doens't get off topic'd? I didn't really want to say this, but I know naz would bring up the argument of "When gorath was off topicing no one told him" Or something along those lines
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:35

Adressed? you expect me to do what, exactly? replace the admin staff with you bunch? or make the rules clear as day and enforce them with an iron fist? you would enjoy that?

and seriously, shadow? i was saying the you-specific instance because you are the one who keeps saying this to me, then you do it too...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:37

But have I completly derailed topics because of it like you have?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:37

No, i just want to hear answers/replies to the actual points I raised.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:42

For ducks sake nuke this topic and do your role-playing, this is getting ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:43

A little liberal with the nuking of this huh?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:45

NO ONE IS SAFE wrote:
first off - the recent ban/account deletion. Why? leaving for an admin to reply.
but I don't see why not. we have another member that displays the same literacy capabilities, but there joining was welcomed. They also tend to enjoy breaking rules.

second - the rules are easily abused by the admins.
a thread containing only pornographic material was once created and remains up. this was created after the date of the rules. why is it still around? it has a warning, but the rules allow no exceptions.

third - lazy, unwilling admins. they do things if they feel like it, and this rp community is dying because of it. activity is becoming less and less. they only enforce these stupid rules if they are notified of it and how they feel about the OP.

fourth - admins won't take criticism. this is going to be denied almost immediately.


one, because 3 separate people, including (shadowkitten!) wrote to me that vargas was a troll and posted hue repeatedly after being told not to do so and his thread was edited. by the time i was able to do something, it was long gone and everyone still agreed that he was a troll and stuff. thats why.

two, i did not know of the hue thread, as i already said if you bothered to read my reply this morning. thats why. from what i hear its gone now. be happy. or do you really want me to go serious? i can create rules, no worry. you go one millimeter beyond the line, it will be obvious and i can nuke you instantly if you really insist on it.

three, and? yes, im lazy and would be more than happy to reliquish this position to someone more suitable, and before you get any ideas, not a single one of us is suitable, as i said above, again. and you really want me to write an analisis on why i think activity is declining? ill do it if you insist. but dont tell me that you cant fucking do anything unless theres an admin breathing down everyones neck and reading every single word looking for breaches of the rules.

four, i cant reply to this in any manner without being accused of something
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 14:49

If yer gonna make these rules you gotta enforce em. Not with an iron fist, just having rules is redundant if you don't actually intend to do anything much with them.
And it's more the opposite, I am pretty sure activity would be higher without the admins plaguing threads with life stories. Big whoop, five days one post, but thats not what I'm saying. It's about all the times before the 5 days, where you interrupt a rp to say some codswallop about something thats happened to you or you think. Surely with your initiative you would have thought it far more sensible to create an off topic section? The closest we have to an off topic section is this area, and its usually used for addressing other things.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:03

So lets get this straight. you expect me to make specific, clear rules, then constantly monitor every single thread for breaches, just so you bunch can rest easy knowing that im doing my job... which isnt my job, as i said before... ...while not actually posting anything because it might derail your RPing by starting a conversation...
do you think im an AI or something? as much as i would probably enjoy that, i am but a human with limited mental capacity and many, many better and more important things to do than read what is practically fanfic all day long.
You say i dont enforce the rules, yet when 3 separate sources tell me the same thing, and i act upon it, you start a frikkin resistance movement because you think it was unjust. I couldnt care less. If you see hue, tell me and ill do something about it. in this case i have been told, and i did something about it, just like i would have done something about the mythical hue thread which is now supposedly gone.

as for the derails, do your stuff, i dont intend to go into those topics unless i must. and if you think it will last a few days or even a week, im as serious as when i decided not to ever write a comment on sites like youtube, 9gag, etc, and i have adhered to that decision for yars now...
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:14

It was unjust, but that seems to be over now.
Making rules is redundant though.
And if ye didn't care less, ye wouldnt be replying.

But anyways, from what i can tell you didn't check what you removed or why, just what you were told. Oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:42

I like Nazamroth's life story updates.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:48

how was i supposed to check anything? all i had to go on by that time was what everyone told me, and everyone, including shadow, said that vargas was a troll at best.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:49

Never said I wanted him banned though
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 15:53

I agree with himfea
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