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PostSubject: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:39

Well, with all the utter hypocrisy which is going around the forum right now, myself, Ortus and cowman have some concerns which we thought needed to be heard.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:40

Don't you mean NO ONE IS SAFE?
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Ortus

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:44

first off - the recent ban/account deletion. Why? leaving for an admin to reply.
but I don't see why not. we have another member that displays the same literacy capabilities, but there joining was welcomed. They also tend to enjoy breaking rules.

second - the rules are easily abused by the admins.
a thread containing only pornographic material was once created and remains up. this was created after the date of the rules. why is it still around? it has a warning, but the rules allow no exceptions.

third - lazy, unwilling admins. they do things if they feel like it, and this rp community is dying because of it. activity is becoming less and less. they only enforce these stupid rules if they are notified of it and how they feel about the OP.

fourth - admins won't take criticism. this is going to be denied almost immediately.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:48

As ortus said, It is illegal for someone to put "Arag is throb" But its alright to do everything in the hue section?

Vargas had no knowledge of that rule and yet he was giving a near instant ban when asking "if its okay to do sex" Which he was told he couldn't do, and said he wouldn't

So why is the hue thread up? Why? That is against not only the forums rules, but forumotions rules itself, in which it says "No pornographic material" and I am pretty sure that is exactly what the hue thread is
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:49

I'd also like to say how somehow saying the word throb is worse than some of the things put up by others.
I quote.
 Adonnenniel comes around to her backside having picked up a strap on, a large one.
Adon: aww but your ass is so nice *she starts putting it on*
she spits in Adon's eye*
Adon: *rubbing it out* like that'd deter me
she climbs on the bed next to Aola and grips her ass
Adon: such a nice ass, I like it
she caresses it a little
she grits her teeth at this and closes her eyes


Could someone please explain, because this isn't the worst of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:53

Jsidjjehehsksnbsjj Jesus guys what the hell?
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Ortus

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:54

Also, to prove how the forum is dying.
Our last user was flamed and banned after having his thread removed several times.
The one before that, salmon, left after a matter of days. He joined my thread, and told me in person "if that guy keeps clogging it what's the point. I'm here to rp not hear a life story."
Last 2 actual users to join. One was forced away, the other wasn't welcomed/was pushed away by offtopic in the middle of an on topic thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:56

Plus, every time i make a thread it almost always gets killed by off topic, leading me to constantly hover in between being on this forum or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:56

Very true, off topic-ing is quite a problem, walls of text and constant clogging of it stifles RP. It takes the fun out of it when people get distracted and respond to the said person
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:58

Hello Ortus!

Have I caused any problems?
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Captain Raeven

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 22:59

Hmmmm we need threads for that... Oh wait what do you mean we have those?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:00

Sad day, bruvva ortus, sad day
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:01

I don't think your the issue Bush, you seem to want to RP.
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Captain Raeven

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:04

To confirm, we're talking about the infamous naz text walls right?
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Ortus

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:04

You two are both cool. You come to rp and do so.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:05

Yay!

Also, look at my avatar...it is badass
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cow-man

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:06

Ripped vader?
Also, let's not go off topic; there are issues to address.
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Ortus

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:06

Square enix star wars.
But yeah, if either of you 2 have issues, please state them here too.
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Captain Raeven

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:08

(Apologies for the IP fiasco ortus)
So basically we want better rules and enforcement of said rules in a fair and equal way?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:08

Can I just say, im either expecting the 'glorious' admins to either not see this at all, in goraths case, or, for naz to come on and claim he has had no hand in it, as he has done before..and as much as I hate instantly antagonizing people, I feel like that it needed to be said
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:10

Basically, raeven. The current admins seem to be bad at this.
(Tis k, was actual evidence even if not true)
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:13

They try, bless their little cotton socks, but it's a bit like they're throwing rocks at a slightly vicious looking bush while they don't notice the fucking dragon 3 feet behind it because it's a bit further away
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:15

They don't really.
One should have the nickname xx_thread killer_xx and the other disobeys the rules made by the forum and only removes things done by someone he hasn't known for long or tried to get to know.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:15

I'm gonna stay out of this, but I'll notify Gor for you all so your views and opinions will be heard.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:16

We don't just want gor to see this, we want naz to see this, out of the 2 admins he is more likely to actually do something..But thats still only a slim chance..
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:16

I agree, the admins are not trying, if anything it's a problem that they cause.
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Chapter Master Arken

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:41

Okay, I'm stepping in here as a newly christened moderator.

You have no idea how hypocritical you are being. None, whatsoever. Frankly, I agree with the problem with the HUE thread, and if I can ever find it in the mess that is the 40k-ish section, I'm nuking it. HOWEVER, you say that Vargas "was flamed by users", when it was you guys that were doing the flaming. Also, Ortus, by your own admission, Vargas' thread was your own personal "lolz thread", which is just as bad as flaming. Further, Honus, you PERSONALLY called for Vargas' thread to be deleted, and yet here you are, suddenly saying Gor shouldn't have done that. That's VERY hypocritical.

Further, I was not around for the "salmon" issue as you called it, but frankly, if that guy was angry over a couple of off-topic posts, I don't think he would have lasted that long as sometimes, we just chat OOC here. We've always done that, ever since the days of FG. Also, Naz did what he did so he remained active in some way. He had nothing to do until recently. Now, I'm not saying it was right, but it was easy to ignore Naz's posts, simple as that.

Finally, your past behavior harms your credibility here. You guys have a track record of harassing or otherwise abusing other users of this site because you don't like them. This, combined with your flaming of Vargas, really makes me think that this isn't about your "concerns" so much as it is that you're upset that the admins did their jobs and got rid of a blatant troll. A troll you were going to use as a means to end for your sadistic fun. Now, I'll admit to having no sympathy for trolls, but nor do I have sympathy for flamers. Just because someone is a troll doesn't give you an excuse to flame them, if anything, it would only make things worse if we get a dedicated troll.

Edit: I nuked the HUE thread, just so you guys know. I'll reiterate I agree on the matter of HUE. That shouldn't have happened period, and I'm glad I was finally able to delete it as I wasn't to happy upon seeing that when I logged in one day.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:53

Vargas' thread was funny, yes, but doesn't mean I was flaming him. I didn't comment on the thing once.
Second, why have you been made a moderator?
Third, salmon left because said thread was completely derailed by annoying off topic chatter.
Fourth, why call this a rp site if its only off topic?
And the admins didn't do their jobs. All they did was remove a poor sods thread repeatedly then ban him with probably no warning.
Defend all you want, seems redundant to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:56

Hey, the Vargas thing? I have no problem with that.. Whatever he was getting banned, but the flaming was directed at ortus, not whoever Vargas was, or may have been, naz, gave us the information about the IPs, which I can only assume is false, given the impossibility of them having the same ip but different connections
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:57

And I get threatened with nuking for pretty obvious sarcasm and saying two people had a child
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:57

Also do give me an example of when I have abused others because I didn't like them.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:58

You do realise that I was joking, right? I didn't want Vargas to get deleted, I thought his story was funny. 
Also, do we need to go over track records of harassment, after what you did? Really?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-08, 23:59

What members of this forum don't I like? Or any of us for that matter?
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Ortus

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:00

I'm cool with all you guys, as far as I know..
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:00

Arken, you call us the hypocrites

You have no right to speak of such matter

You instantly antagonized me and cowman several times then say we have a track reccord for harrasment? I was going to try and help before you were being a asshole to me
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:00

I didn't see much of Vargas, but what I did see had no grammar and couldn't spell, I based my judgement of trollness on that
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:02

I only really read the chapters and didn't do much else.
But his apparent bad grammar was not just done by him on this forum, but as he was new he got worse treatment for it. My problem with the ban and deletes is how he seemingly got no warning in the threads it would be removed.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:06

Who else is that bad? I certainly haven't seen it, maybe on threads I don't frequent
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:08

Azrok
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Chapter Master Arken

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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:10

1) Even if you didn't flame him, your friends did.

2) I made a well written request to Naz stating that Gor was to lenient in regards to trolls. I'm not. We balance each other out. Simple as that.

3) And this happened when? And with just one newcomer who saw people being people rather than RPing robots?

4) Frankly, that's an extreme exaggeration and you know it. If you actually bothered to look/be active, you would see there are MANY threads on here that are on topic for their area of the site. Does off topic banter/chat happen, yes, it does, but it's not the entirety of the site and you know that.

5) They did do their job. They saw trolling and they stopped it. Simple as that.

6) Raevan, where were you "threatened". I want to see evidence of this. Also, I doubt it was for just saying some of your characters were a couple and had a child. There are RPs here where characters have families with children, and I don't see threats of nuking there.

7) Hyp, allow me to explain something. I don't CARE if I've antagonized you. Gorath has showed me how you insulted Wookie and called him a "bitch" cause of his fantasy RP idea before you just bluntly slammed a link to that fantasy thread of yours into his face. I've also talked to other users and how they've almost been forced off the site by you and your friends. I KNOW that Naz has come down on you for such actions. I may not be on as often as I like, but I keep in the loop as best I can and I know these things happened. Finally, how about when I announced my hiatus from 40k a couple of months ago before I returned to the setting? Yes, I lost my temper there, I will concede that, but only after you and your friends basically insulted me and told me to GTFO cause I couldn't handle how depressing the setting was and RPing in it wasn't helping things at the time. You guys have a history of this behavior. I'm not perfect either, but I don't harass people. I don't go after them in threads, Steam chat, etc and insult them and drive them from the site.

8 ) Azrok isn't that bad. Does he have some problems...yes, but I've talked to the guy. Frankly, I think he just doesn't care sometimes cause some days are just crap and he just wants to relax. He can be amazingly articulate when he wants to be, which is more than I can say for Vargas. Azrok at least shows understanding of the English language and doesn't insult people when others call him out on his mistakes. And frankly, if you're going to attack Azrok, you're going to have to attack more people than just him.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:13

Honestly, I have no idea what you are on about with regards to bushwookie, and I wouldn't openly call a friend a bitch if it was not intended as a joke
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:15

Um...No. I know what went down, and I know it pissed off Gor enough that you're no longer on speaking terms with him. Wookie told you his idea, and then you insulted him and told him everything he just told you was stupid, a waste of time, and utterly inferior to what you and your friends were doing. You have every right to disagree with someone's idea, but that doesn't give your the right to insult and belittle them and their idea while you're at it.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:16

Good old gorath, guns a'blazing, threatening to nuke me because some other guy pulled some bs on him http://warhammerrejects.forumc.net/t223p50-some-heretical-ass-fanfic
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:16

What are you on about?

Before I actually agree/disagree with anything you are saying, I would like proof.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:17

Raeven i apologize for that threat
you can blame ortus for it
he told me yours should be nuked but said he doubtex i would
having read through it i see the threat was premature
sorry
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:17

Its a rp site, not a social site. Sites exist for talking.
I made a request and got a title. What made you different?
Off topic is the majority of this site. I don't bother to be active because of this. Also, whenever I do come on i make sure to avoid these ones. The 40k-ish section is nothing like 40k and I choose to ignore its existence.
They had no proof it was trolling, he made his own thread and didn't disturb anyone else, apart from when he joined. After that he settled on a simple bit of... 'Creative' writing.

I ask again, when was I abusing others for not liking them?
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:18

Everyone's an asshole okay? But calm down kiddies, past gripes don't stop us having to solve now problems!
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:18

I saw it unfair that one person hints at it and their thread is removed, while another can and the admins act oblivious to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:20

Thank you gorath, apology accepted, see? Not hard everyone!
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PostSubject: Re: Our concerns   2015-04-09, 00:20

I see your point ortus, but still, kinda a dick move, but FairPlay
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