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Gorath




PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 22:55

yeah...what unique stuff do they get...
headhunter kill teams
lernaean terminators
some dudes get banestrike bolter ammo
any indpendant character can have a power dagger in addition to all other weapons
venom spheres
and their centurions can be consuls
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 22:56

not consuls
sorry
sabotuers
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 22:57

Consuls?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 22:59

sabotuers
sorry
its a type of consul
which basically means making the centurion a certain specialisations
consuls not including legion specific ones are: 
chaplains
librarians
master of signal
legion champion
vigilator
forge lord
primus medicae
siege breaker
moritat
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:01

And I imagine saboteurs are the trickery kind of guys.
Using their opponents strengths as weaknesses, using unfair tactics, and backstabbing.
That kind of speciality?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:04

saboteurs do the following
the lone killer: cannot be your compulsery HQ
Special Deployment: they must begin in reserve but have outflank
Sabotage: when they enter play, you select a single enemy unit or fortification on the table. they take either D6 S6 ap4 hits or take a single penetrating hit. no cover saves are allowed against this
they may not have terminator armour, jetbikes, power fists, bikes, hammers or boarding shields
automaticaly have Cameleoline (camo cloak) and melta bombs
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:06

Suits me perfectly.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:07

excellent
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:15

Brb shower.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:16

coolio
we'll continue this in PMs
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:24

back.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:26

sweet
so where were we
want me to assist you in creating your guy?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:27

Hmm.
I'll add me own creative flair, but sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:27

so you are a saboteur yes?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:29

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:31

in that case
your starting wargear is cameleoline, melta bombs, power armour, combat weapon and pistol
in addition to this you may have a power knife
you may also have a volkite charger, bolter or combi weapon
may swap pistol/combat weapon for the following
volkite serpenta
plasma pistol
heavy chainsword
charabal sabre
power weapon
single lightning claw
may swap both for 2 claws
may take artificer armour
may take a combat shield or refractor feild (note combat shields in this are 6++, 5++ in combat)
may take jump pack
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:34

Alright, I'll take the power knife, the power weapon, bolt pistol with the special rounds only alpha legion get, and a lightweight power armour.

Or the lightest, I'll look.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:35

Can I also have a additional volkolite charger, or is that a swap thing?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:36

actually them speshul ammo (which sons of horus also get cause alpha legion gave it to them) is only on the bolter or combi bolter, not the pistol
for some strange reason
and with the volkite, combi weapon or bolter its you have that in addition to all other wargear
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:37

OH and lest i forget
you may have venom spheres
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:37

Alright, I'll have a combi plasma.
Guess I get the special bolts now.


And I'll take those, whatever they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:38

they frag grenades that give you hammer of wrath
and coolio
note the ammo is 18" bolter round with rending, but it's ap3 not 2
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:39

Yes.
Perfect.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:39

What does your guy have?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:42

my guy's a praetor so his stuff is...powerful to say the least
but he's just my first. basically how this is gonna work is NO ONE has plot armour
but to balance this out everyone can have up to 3 main characters at a time
my world eater is gonna be as powerful as fuck
but the other two will not
he's a praetor (captain statline)
volkite charger
paragon blade 
2nd, master crafted paragon blade
melta bombs
digital lasers
jump pack
artificer armour
iron halo
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:44

Digital lasers?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:44

+1 attack
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:46

So your dude is a combat beast.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:47

indeed
he is after all a world eater :P
tis kinda what he's meant to do
gonna also have a...hmm not sure which legion
either a salamander or some form of heretic
the 3rd guy'll be heretic solar auxilia
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:48

KONRAD KURZE
BATMAN
HES HERE!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:48

oh yeah
i've seen it
it's freakin amazing
unlike smaug....who would be amazing if he wasn't 300 quid
and resin
and already sold out
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:49

KONRAD KURZE
BATMAN
HES HERE!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:49

did you just double post?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:50

Smaug? Didn't see him.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:51

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Smaug
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:52

Looks cool.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:52

yep
again shame he's 300 quid, resin, and sold out
oh btw the new Blood Angel stuff's up on the site
likin the tactical squad personally
oh and the dex is up too
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:56

Why is the codex 100 quid.
And why is the tactical squad literally a recast of the old models put onto a new sprue with a few space marine weapons stuck on.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:57

Found it.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-05, 23:58

To be honest, GW is being a bit lazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:00

1) that's the sanguinary guard edition. standard one's the same as the normal ones for everyone else
2) is it? to me it looks like the current marine tactical squad, with a bunch o blood angely bits, hand flamer, inferno pistol, and the missile launcher swapped for a heavy bolter n heavy flamer
3) found...what?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:01

Ooc: the regular codex.

And the tactical squad is copy paste from other sprues with minor alteration, and a few new bits like a heavy flamer and a helmet.

Woo.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:04

to me it looks like a kitbash of the sanguinary guard, tactical marines, and death company kits, but with 1 or 2 new bits
not bad, not great
anyway back to the heresy thing
i'm also saying people can have a force to go with their commander. centurion level (your guy) gets up to 6 squads. you lose a squad however they're gone for good
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:06

I literally have been saying that, copy paste from old sprues with minor alterations with 2 or so new bits.
And Corbulo... who looks pretty cool.

But in all... I'm disappointed.


Alright, how about vehicles?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:09

1) hey, at least you don't need to buy 2 kits to have yer blood angels look blood angelly
like my templars do
*cries*
but i can see why yer dissapointed

and as for vehicles, centurion level gets i vehicle unit (most vehicles come in squads)
dreadnoughts count as squads not vehicles
no super heavies at all
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:12

Ooc: I'm not buying any, the money is far too much for me to justify now.
I only wanted rhinos.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:12

1) completely understandable
2) oh rhinos are different cause they're bought as dedicated transports
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:13

Yesh
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:14

well then
shall we start with troop choices?
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:16

Alright, 3 squads of 50, with corvus armour, cos alpha legion wear corvus apparently.
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PostSubject: Re: Starter Topic   2014-12-06, 00:17

Unless we ain't going full out
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