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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:21

Calton: What?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:22

Celi: you're not the only quarian who isn't part of the migrant fleet.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:33

arken?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:38

OOC: Son of a....I am so sorry. I didn't notice the new page.

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Calton: That much I knew.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:40

OOC XD it's fine
IC Celi: yeah. our little band left the fleet a while ago now. tell you what, do this job for me, I'll pay you up front, and when we're done I'll tell you the full story
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:42

Calton: So long as you're sure the Blue Suns won't survive. We should also be sure to destroy any helmet recorders.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:43

Celi: trust me, I'm very thorough
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:45

OOC....watch this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/movie-defense-force/9071-Event-Horizon-You-Wont-Need-Eyes-To-See and listen to what he says near the end
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:47

OOC: How long is it?

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Calton: Alright.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:49

OOC 3 minutes 50 seconds
I've never seen this film...and just from what he said at the end i want to
IC Celi: how does six thousand credits sound for helping me out?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:51

OOC: Okay. I don't think that will take a massive chunk out of my download limit.

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Calton: Like a few extra thermal clips, packets of omni and medi-gel, and some more food rations.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:51

OOC aye
plus I like all this guy's vids anyway
IC Celi: sure, I can throw that in too
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:52

OOC aye
plus I like all this guy's vids anyway
IC Celi: sure, I can throw that in too
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:54

Calton: No, I meant that's what I can buy with six thousand credits. Sorry. I'm not used to getting paid that much most of the time. I usually take smaller contracts.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:55

Celi: oh I see. well we have those kind of credits to spare luckily.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:55

Calton: Alright, then lead the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:56

she does, drawing a phaeston assault rifle and then handing him the credits up front like she promised. she then heads to afterlife
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:57

*He takes the credits and follows.*

Calton: Where did you get a rifle like that?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:58

Celi: a dealer I know
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:59

Calton: And how much did that cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 02:59

Celi: quite a bit, I forget the exact amount
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:00

Calton: If you'd gotten it cheap I'd be concerned.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:01

Celi: I agree. I blew my entire paycheck for that month on it
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:03

Calton: *Whistles*

OOC: I watched that video and I couldn't understand what the last line in it was so I'm going to assume you were referring to the bit where he said some consider it a prequel to 40k.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:05

OOC you are correct sir
just him saying that makes me wanna check it out
IC she chuckles and leads him to afterlife. the bouncer goes to stop them, but notices a symbol on her shoulder. it is a Black sun with white light outlining it

the bouncer stands aside to let them in
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:09

OOC: It's an interesting theory. I'm looking the movie up on wikipeida right now and it is implied the ship jumped into another mention which itself is implied to be Hell (and the Warp fits the Biblical description of Hell rather accurately) and that the ship has basically developed a sort of daemonic sentience (and there are daemonic ships in 40k). Although I didn't need to see that mutilated guy up close...or this late at night. Damn you dude....well, at least it wasn't as bad as the time I realized I was player FEAR at night....

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Calton: Any reason that patch should make me worried?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:13

OOC 1) yeah these guys pissed off khorne
2) you should try playing condemned, alone at night
IC Celi: that's just my group's symbol
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:15

OOC: 1) You sure about that? Some of it strikes me a Tzeentchian, especially the fact the ship manipulates people into killing each other and themselves. Khorne is far more direct.

2) Didn't that have an infamous "bear scene"?

3) BRB.

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Calton: Right....
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:18

OOC sounds like the bloodtide to me
2) bear scene?
IC Celi: don't worry, we're not dangerous unless you fuck with us.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 03:23

OOC: 1) Maybe but Khorne is always more direct...the fact the ship plays on the fears and personal demons of the strikes me as far more Tzeenthcian.

2) I may be thinking of a different game but it was noted for being a terrifying scene. The basic idea is that the player character(s) are trapped in a cabin at night, with a rabid grizzly bear chasing them, and the escape is all one long quick time event, and failing results in what is considered to be one of the most brutal death scenes in gaming.


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Calton *a bit unsure* That's good to know.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 05:22

OOC. reading through shit now. Arken, if i recall the books correctly, the pellets are much faster than mach 1. also, the reason why they are not much faster, even though we can fire shots at mach 15+ even today, is because the shot wont survive. it gets reduced to an expanding cone of plasma due to the atmosphere.
Science has been done!

Addendum: they would improve prothean tech... if they even understood the principles they work by...
and weapons can fold and unfold faster even today... i think that 1.5ish sec was just a limiting factor in the game so you wont be able to swap that easily or something... or because the animation couldnt reasonably handle a faster swap

Addendum #2: gorath, thats a solar eclipse. why would a black sun radiate so much light?


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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 08:56

OOC Naz it's just a symbol, it aint meant t be scientifically accurate
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 09:50

OOC. No excuses! Science must be done!
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 11:51

as they are heading towards afterlife a large krogan walks through both of them the krogan has a hammer on his back and heavy armor on the helmet is heavy in scars but the krogan looks like hejust wants a fight
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 11:58

OOC. ...i should point out that neither of them are here...
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 11:59

I know just wanted to put that out there
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 12:06

OOC. ...so, we got any plans for today?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 12:10

wellno besides school and work no and even then ill be on here for the majority of the day
I want to adda krogan for veriety that and I love the krogan warlord class in ME3
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 12:14

OOC. ...dont pain me...
seriously, ill have to borrow someones PC/laptop just so i can finally play ME3 as well...
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 12:20

im just sayin if you play MP try to unlock krogan characters and the M99 saber precision rifle its a 1 hit kill and I love how  everything explodes that's why I call it the krogan huntin rifle it pretty much has armor they see a massive krogan walks past them with a hammer on his back and he looks like he's looking for a fight piercing rounds
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 12:37

OOC. .....stop....just.... stop... please stop rubbing in how good ME3 is, both SP and MP... except the original endings... it actually hurts...
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:13

OOC: Anyone here? helllloooo?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:14

hlo
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:18

OOC: Ayyyyy its a fag lelellelellelelelelelelelellelelee

Nah just joking
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:52

OOC: Just popping in real quick to offer a rebuttal to Nazamroth's post.

1) I KNOW how fast we can accelerate things today and that if something is accelerated to fast within an atmosphere it will turn into a ball of plasma. However, in regards to your statement about the novels I have never read them and I am solely going off of in-game lore and operation. Further, it's never explicitly stated just how fast the pellets are launched but I think it's safe to assume that it's not Mach 15+ (yes, that's hyperbole). My reason being that either the ceramics of the ME hardsuits are either incredibly strong or the weapons just don't accelerate a projectile to how fast you think they do. Ceramics are good and all but I kind of doubt they can shrug off a sufficiently accelerated kinetic round not matter how advanced. In fact, going by my own experiences in the game they really can't! Once you're barriers are down you die rather quickly so either the ceramics are incredibly strong (as in, powered armor strong) or the weapons are weaker than we think. My theory is they accelerate the pellets to at least Mach 1 if THAT because the more I look at Quarian environmental suits the less armored they look to me. In fact, they don't look like they have much armor at all. They look mostly like they're made of leather, plastics. and maybe one or two other materials. If that's the case then it explains why Quarians have strong kinetic barriers but at the same time it says something about the power of the weapons in ME when a Quarian can take more hits than a Turian in a heavy battle suit (and I've seen that happen in-game. I've seen Garrus be incapacitated in one hit while Tali just shrugs it off despite the shot slicing through her barriers like they weren't there).

2) I wasn't saying they should try to improve all Prothean tech, but there are a few very BASIC things in ME that Humans have had for at least a full century if not more, especially in the weapons department. If I remember correctly, ME weapons are Gauss guns, also known as coilguns. Here's the thing, we have coilguns today but they're basically just glorified BB guns since we haven't figured out how to feed them the power they would need to be a combat practical weapon (at least, in terms of mass production and transport, there have been prototypes for militarized coilguns in the past but they've been heavy weapons) but they do exist and they launch tiny projectiles at a very fast rate! In ME the fact they can't improve upon a very basic and reliable (coilguns don't suffer from rail erosion like railguns, which is why the US Navy abandoned their railgun project last I checked) form of kinetic weapon when they have the technology to do so is a testament to the stupidity of the Council races when Humans invented coilguns back when the steam engine was still considered a technological pinnacle of sorts.

3) In regards to ME unfold and activation time I'm going purely off of what I've seen in game coupled with fan calculations and it roughly comes out to 1.5 seconds if that and in 1.5 seconds a lot can happen, especially in a combat situation. I don't want to have to wait for my shotgun to unfold when I have a Krogan breathing down my neck.

4) Gorath is a walking lore tome and he affirmed that my character's bio fits ME lore rather closely.

5) I'm invoking story trumps science. Just because something is impossible/unlikely by our standards today doesn't necessarily hold true 100 years in the future. The universe in which the story takes place has to be interesting in many ways, it's technology included. Yes, Bioware did do some things very right in the science department but they still rather rightfully invoked story trumps science in other areas because the game would have suffered if they had decided to be 100% scientifically accurate.


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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:54

dear god where did you come from
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:55

OOC: Does it matter?
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:59

OOC: Why not check the wiki, it shows how strong a characcters shields/health are for example a geth engineer has 1000 or so shields but only 267 health
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 13:59

no, just jokin. felt like that post ambushed me XD
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 14:01

OOC:

@Hyperion: It's more complex than that. Armor actually mitigates the damage you take. How much armor does a Geth engineer have? Cause either the "heavy" armors are incredibly weak without their barriers or the weapons are just weak combined with the armor not being designed to take serious hits.

@Gorath: Okay then.
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PostSubject: Re: Expanded Beginnings   2014-04-25, 14:04

OOC: This is multiplayer arken

There is no such thing as a geth engineer out of it

Same with cerberus dragoons, they have really heavy armour
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